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Old Apr 20, 2009, 09:39 PM // 21:39   #341
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I generally remember good balanced players.
And Omega Spike is a honorable build, rite?
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Old Apr 20, 2009, 10:06 PM // 22:06   #342
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Never played it.
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Old Apr 21, 2009, 11:26 AM // 11:26   #343
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every hour is noob hour in toomz...the archer henchman is better than about 99% of all HA players
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Old Apr 21, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58   #344
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every hour is noob hour in toomz...the archer henchman is better than about 99% of all HA players
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and the mage henchman is 200x better than the archer one

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Old Apr 21, 2009, 04:55 PM // 16:55   #345
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@barpusher- And that brings us back to the current-players vs past-players argument again? this is so irrelevant and everyone is fed up with that subject, seriously...

@borat - cut that 'dishonorable build' crap, every single build in the history of guild wars has been categorized as 'dishonorable' by players. this is just a load of BS. it's a game, people play what they enjoy, if teasewayers enjoy playing teaseway then accusing them of being 'dishonorable' is a joke. If you wanna blame someone then blame Izzy for letting those negative builds exist, but I believe that we all got tired of blaming Izzy (except you maybe).
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Old Apr 21, 2009, 05:15 PM // 17:15   #346
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nah im still with borat on the blaming izzy thing. he's a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing man-slut. Even though it would result in rangers not even existing in the game, I'd rather have borat balance than izzy
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Old Apr 21, 2009, 05:43 PM // 17:43   #347
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@barpusher- And that brings us back to the current-players vs past-players argument again? this is so irrelevant and everyone is fed up with that subject, seriously...

@borat - cut that 'dishonorable build' crap, every single build in the history of guild wars has been categorized as 'dishonorable' by players. this is just a load of BS. it's a game, people play what they enjoy, if teasewayers enjoy playing teaseway then accusing them of being 'dishonorable' is a joke. If you wanna blame someone then blame Izzy for letting those negative builds exist, but I believe that we all got tired of blaming Izzy (except you maybe).

In your feeble attempt to prove some point, you did not actually debate the topic at all; furthermore, "killed u man" was not really the one who brought up dishonorable build.

I was simply asking who he was and my only knowledge was of friends that he had rit spiked.

Next time if you wish to attack me, please don't be such a hypocrite.

Oh and sure, players can run what they like but it doesn't mean others will take them seriously or EVER think they are a good player.

Regarding the actual subject, I think I discussed that clear enough in -first post- and the only reason for bumping was to ask who still played. Rather than make another junk thread.
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 12:06 AM // 00:06   #348
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In your feeble attempt to prove some point, you did not actually debate the topic at all; furthermore, "killed u man" was not really the one who brought up dishonorable build.

I was simply asking who he was and my only knowledge was of friends that he had rit spiked.

Next time if you wish to attack me, please don't be such a hypocrite.

Oh and sure, players can run what they like but it doesn't mean others will take them seriously or EVER think they are a good player.

Regarding the actual subject, I think I discussed that clear enough in -first post- and the only reason for bumping was to ask who still played. Rather than make another junk thread.
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 06:21 AM // 06:21   #349
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nah im still with borat on the blaming izzy thing. he's a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing man-slut. Even though it would result in rangers not even existing in the game, I'd rather have borat balance than izzy
TbH, People still don't full realize HOW BAD Izzy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up. Let me lay it out here for you:

HE GOT PAYED, AS IN REAL LIFE CASH, TO DO SKILL BALANCE/GAME BALANCE IN GUILD WARS.


There have been more than enough volounteers/other solutions (community based skill updates) to replace izzy.
That fagget alone took down GW for me. At the end of the day, it was HIS JOB to make the call on alot of updates, and he simply couldn't care enough to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing try. And if he WAS trying, than I have my serious doubts in him as "balancer".

It doesn't take a genius to see how Bspam (He was still around when they buffed N/A way), Rspikes (Keen Arrow, glass arrows), endless damage buffing (Conjures + SoH etc) will get abused in the wrong ways.

Let alone his epic lulz on the HA-changes he made. That guy is a fcking joke, and singlehandidly managed to make 5000+ people leave a game. (RiP HA)
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 09:59 AM // 09:59   #350
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Bspike isnt overpowered at all, it only works because everyone takes one or two stances on every charactar.
To be honest I don't find rspike to be overpowered either, especially with +DMG removed from RTW.
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 10:57 AM // 10:57   #351
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 12:50 PM // 12:50   #352
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Borat, I think you don't look right at izzy's job, he needs to amuse the masses, aka, the thumpers b-spikers and teasewayers, If more then 50% of the players are happy he does a good job for his company. Don't get me wrong he does a terrible job for the company but if you look at th bigger picture there are more people running the "trash" builds then people playing balanced. And izzy always had a weak spot for thumpers.
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 12:52 PM // 12:52   #353
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With that amount of skills, it's always going to be hard to get "balance" anyway.
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 05:14 PM // 17:14   #354
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In your feeble attempt to prove some point, you did not actually debate the topic at all; furthermore, "killed u man" was not really the one who brought up dishonorable build.

I was simply asking who he was and my only knowledge was of friends that he had rit spiked.

Next time if you wish to attack me, please don't be such a hypocrite.

Oh and sure, players can run what they like but it doesn't mean others will take them seriously or EVER think they are a good player.

Regarding the actual subject, I think I discussed that clear enough in -first post- and the only reason for bumping was to ask who still played. Rather than make another junk thread.
I honestly can't understand how one can possibly interpret my post as a flame directed at you. God, all I ever said is that you are going off topic with a dumb subject that has already been milked out by coutless posters in countless threads in countless forums. By the way, some firendly advice- you won't beat borat in a troll fight, every guru member knows that. give up.

If I'm trolling anyone then I'm trolling Lifes Restorer because he is a breathing failure and a dota scrub above that
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #355
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You all do know skill changes had to be run through a committee that knew absolutely nothing about pvp right?
Izzy's not been perfect by any means but he gets way too much blame here.
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Old Apr 22, 2009, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #356
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I honestly can't understand how one can possibly interpret my post as a flame directed at you. God, all I ever said is that you are going off topic with a dumb subject that has already been milked out by coutless posters in countless threads in countless forums. By the way, some firendly advice- you won't beat borat in a troll fight, every guru member knows that. give up.

If I'm trolling anyone then I'm trolling Lifes Restorer because he is a breathing failure and a dota scrub above that
Your post is unoriginal, thus hypocrite; therefore, -hardly- worth replying to.

I wasn't trying to beat borat in a troll fight. I can beat him in regular discussions.

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Perhaps because you targeted my name and didn't actually debate the topic I created? :].
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Your post is unoriginal, thus hypocrite; therefore, -hardly- worth replying to.

I wasn't trying to beat borat in a troll fight. I can beat him in regular discussions.



Perhaps because you targeted my name and didn't actually debate the topic I created? :].



by the way it's not flaming it's constructive criticism
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by the way it's not flaming it's constructive criticism
Is this post supposed to make me react in anyway?

Or was it directed at LifeRestorer?
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Not really sure what you're doing other than spamming in my thread, heh.

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Borat, I think you don't look right at izzy's job, he needs to amuse the masses, aka, the thumpers b-spikers and teasewayers, If more then 50% of the players are happy he does a good job for his company. Don't get me wrong he does a terrible job for the company but if you look at th bigger picture there are more people running the "trash" builds then people playing balanced. And izzy always had a weak spot for thumpers.
Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO would a company be supposedly satisfied if 50% of the players of a game are happy.
Their goal is either money or making a good game. In the first case, they don't give a shit wether you are happy. In the second case, it's 100%...


Also, of course people are going to run overpowered builds. If you run underpowered builds you are retarded.
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Happy customers is generally more money. Word of mouth is good advertisement.
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